Old Testament Morality and Genocide






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If there's only matter nothing matters, no reason to trust reason, no objective moral values.

No free will - (materialists & atheist Sam Harris and pantheist Albert Einstein)

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The search for meaning/purpose in life is ultimately a useless exercise in a blind pitiless indifferent material world - if there is nothing outside the human brain. Molecules alone = no meaning


'What is truth?' Pilate asked and turned away ... from the Truth. John 18:38, 14:6

It is not that one cannot but will not believe

The radical change that took place in my heart was not from a rational decision but in response to an overwhelming Love that became rational

The existence of God cannot be proved by scientific means as He is outside of space, time and matter

The apologetic should demonstrate that there is nothing more logic than explaining God.

The more you think, the more you explore,

the clearer God will become to the free, open, seeking mind.


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His people misunderstood, rejected Him. He stayed & prayed despite the pain that tore His hands & heart He chose not to walked away.

Ephesians 1:16

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Old Testament Morality and Genocide


How do we understand the Old Testament


Do We Serve a Harsh God or a Holy God?

(we serve a God harsh on sin, with overwhelming love and holiness)



God led Israel to a miraculous conquering of Jericho after the 40 tears in the desert as they entered the Promised Land.


Joshua 7 – sent only 3000 men and defeated by the small army of Ai, paralyzed with fear. Because one man did not obey God.


Joshua 6:18-19

18 “Do not take any of the things set apart for destruction, or you yourselves will be completely destroyed, and you will bring trouble on the camp of Israel. 19 Everything made from silver, gold, bronze, or iron is sacred to the Lord and must be brought into his treasury.”

Joshua 7:19-26

19 Then Joshua said to Achan, “My son, give glory to the Lord, the God of Israel, by telling the truth. Make your confession and tell me what you have done. Don’t hide it from me.”

20 Achan replied, “It is true! I have sinned against the Lord, the God of Israel. 21 Among the plunder I saw a beautiful robe from Babylon,[a] 200 silver coins,[b] and a bar of gold weighing more than a pound.[c] I wanted them so much that I took them. They are hidden in the ground beneath my tent, with the silver buried deeper than the rest.”

22 So Joshua sent some men to make a search. They ran to the tent and found the stolen goods hidden there, just as Achan had said, with the silver buried beneath the rest. 23 They took the things from the tent and brought them to Joshua and all the Israelites. Then they laid them on the ground in the presence of the Lord.

24 Then Joshua and all the Israelites took Achan, the silver, the robe, the bar of gold, his sons, daughters, cattle, donkeys, sheep, goats, tent, and everything he had, and they brought them to the valley of Achor. 25 Then Joshua said to Achan, “Why have you brought trouble on us? The Lord will now bring trouble on you.” And all the Israelites stoned Achan and his family and burned their bodies. 26 They piled a great heap of stones over Achan, which remains to this day. That is why the place has been called the Valley of Trouble[d] ever since. So the Lord was no longer angry.


Why so harsh?


Leviticus 24:16 Anyone who blasphemes the Name of the Lord must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel.

Deuteronomy 21:20-22 The parents must say to the elders, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious and refuses to obey. He is a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his town must stone him to death.

Deuteronomy 13:6-10 “Suppose someone secretly entices you—even your brother, your son or daughter, your beloved wife, or your closest friend—and says, ‘Let us go worship other gods’—gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known. 7 They might suggest that you worship the gods of peoples who live nearby or who come from the ends of the earth. 8 But do not give in or listen. Have no pity, and do not spare or protect them. 9 You must put them to death! Strike the first blow yourself, and then all the people must join in. 10 Stone the guilty ones to death because they have tried to draw you away from the Lord your God, who rescued you.

Leviticus 20:10 “If a man commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, both the man and the woman who have committed adultery must be put to death.


Did God change His mind from OT to NT?


Malachi 3:6 “I am the Lord, and I do not change.

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, …. He is not human, so He does not change His mind.

Jeremiah 26:13 But if you stop your sinning and begin to obey the Lord your God, he will change his mind about this disaster that he has announced against you. (He will not change who He is, His principles, but in His love His decisions)

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.


So, is the world still under the wrath of God?

‘Be holy, for I am holy’

Leviticus 11:45 …. you must be holy because I am holy.

1 Peter 1:16 “You must be holy because I am holy.”


The more hole God is, the more unacceptable sin will be for Him and He is perfectly holy. He is what holiness is.

Habakkuk 1:13 Your eyes are too holy to look at evil, and you cannot stand the sight of people doing wrong.

Hosea 11:8 “How can I give you up, Israel? How can 1 abandon you? Could I ever destroy you? My heart will not let me do it. My love for you is too strong.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Romans 2:8 But he will pour out His anger and wrath on those who live for themselves, who refuse to obey the truth and instead live lives of wickedness.


But did cancel His wrath, His aversion in sin, His hate for sin? No.

Revelation 15:1 Then I saw in heaven another marvelous event of great significance. Seven angels were holding the seven last plagues, which would bring God’s wrath to completion.

We who are saved are saved from this wrath by His infinite love and grace

But His hate, wrath on sin has not changed and as severe as ever.


After Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and after the 40 days in the desert He started His work on earth with the Message:

Matt 4:17”From that time Jesus began to preach His Message: Turn away from your sins….” Mark 1:16 “Turn away from your sins and believe the Good News”

Jesus' final command: ”Go then to all people everywhere and make them My disciples …. And teach them everything that I commanded you”

If our main objective is relieving physical suffering and not to bring people to God, are we doing what we are called for?

Mark 8:36 “Do people gain anything if they gain the world, but loose their life?

Off course not!”


To heal the sick and care for the poor delights the heart of God but to bring them to Jesus is the holy purpose of Jesus’ cross and His great and final command before He ascended to heaven.


But those who get to know Him lives eternal lives free from the wrath of God. Jesus healed the sick but all eventually died.


Intimacy with God to know his heart. The importance of one, the extreme value of each individual one.


Luke 15

Parable of the Lost Sheep

3 So Jesus told them this story: 4 “If a man has a hundred sheep and one of them gets lost, what will he do? Won’t he leave the ninety-nine others in the wilderness and go to search for the one that is lost until he finds it? 5 And when he has found it, he will joyfully carry it home on his shoulders. 6 When he arrives, he will call together his friends and neighbors, saying, ‘Rejoice with me because I have found my lost sheep.’ 7 In the same way, there is more joy in heaven over one lost sinner who repents and returns to God than over ninety-nine others who are righteous and haven’t strayed away!

Parable of the Lost Coin

8 “Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins[a] and loses one. Won’t she light a lamp and sweep the entire house and search carefully until she finds it? 9 And when she finds it, she will call in her friends and neighbors and say, ‘Rejoice with me because I have found my lost coin.’ 10 In the same way, there is joy in the presence of God’s angels when even one sinner repents.”

Parable of the Lost Son