EVER WONDERED ABOUT GOD
WHO HE IS AND WHY
YOU ARE
This is Torque Talk
Tertius Venter
If there's only matter nothing matters, no reason to trust reason, no objective moral values.
No free will - (materialists & atheist Sam Harris and pantheist Albert Einstein)
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The search for meaning/purpose in life is ultimately a useless exercise in a blind pitiless indifferent material world - if there is nothing outside the human brain. Molecules alone = no meaning
'What is truth?' Pilate asked and turned away ... from the Truth. John 18:38, 14:6
It is not that one cannot but will not believe
Billboard San Francisco
The most unchurched city in the USA
The radical change that took place in my heart was not from a rational decision but in response to an overwhelming Love that became rational
The existence of God cannot be proved by scientific means as He is outside of space, time and matter.
The apologetic should demonstrate that there is nothing more logic than explaining God.
The more you think and, the more you explore,
the clearer God will become to the free, open, seeking mind.
Blind faith is not Biblical.
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How I long for you to embrace Me with your heart.
'For love is as strong as death'
Death on the cross.
Song Solomon 8:6
Call it magic, but it's real.
Understanding
“How wrong you are
Because you don’t know the Scriptures
or the power of God “ (1)
The passion
frustration
to understand this Message of love
that purges the contrite heart
A veil of Death
The power of evil (2)
neatly drapes this vile
a heart's content
my feelings covered
even so the Voice - curbed within
And I reach for the pleasures
feed my soul
blind my life (3)
Somewhere, Something, Someone, Somehow (4)
I’ve heard it all
The Cross, God, Jesus
And see Creation
Dare I make Him a liar? (5)
I do not believe what God has done
I look at Creation
Admire the sunset over a tranquil sea
birds abound
in pink and orange and blue
evening shadows complete His Art
I turn my back on Him;
“nature is wonderful!” I would say (6)
denying the Creator of Heavan and Earth
This gentle God
will allow me
In my time of grace
to turn my back on Him -
It is my choice
Patiently He will show me the way;
His Creation
The Cross
The Bible - His Word
A friend’s word perhaps
And the circumstances of my life
So that I can turn to Him (8)
As He is Love -
My choice
Time of grace
Will surely pass
As death will come to each of us
Dust we are and to dust we return (9)
The fact of life
My back to the Cross
The Truth too harsh
God You’re a Liar (5)
I dare to say
How can this Cross be mine?
An event of two thousand years touch my heart?
Be truly mine today?
Jews, Muslims, Hindus
Who are they, their god
not You? (10)
What Creator would allow a Book
False or filled with half truths
This story of God
His Son
His Spirit
And leave His creation in a state of confusion?
No clear guidance to His people (11)
My Word is the Living Word (12)
A two edged sword
cuts into soul
to see Our God (13)
The Truth to read
and understand
declared in this Word
Come to Me and I will come to you (14)
reveal Myself to you
touch your heart (15)
A Touch so deep it will change your life
and eternity
In my time of grace
My decision to believe this God
The Creator of life
that surpasses mere existence
My common sense object
My intellect resists (16)
This story of the Cross
The Truth of God
But the guilt in my heart?
Why?
The knowledge of right and wrong (17)
It’s written in my heart! (18)
And when I ignore what I know is right
It is in my heart that I know
How?
When I turn to Him
He’ll touch my soul (13-14)
Common sense will fade
supra natural sense fills my heart (19)
as this veil of Death tears apart
Guilt shattered
And lifts my heart
And I will see the reality of God
The empty ache
The void in my being
Filled with God
See purpose in life
To live in Him
The Creator of my soul
The reality of an intimate knowledge of God
A relationship that overwhelms my being
At peace with Him that none can shake (20)
I found my Creator
My purpose for Him
He cleanses my sole
with the Cross of His love
Sin has no place with God
His sinless Son carried it all -
The Wrath of God
For the wages of sin is Death (21)
I escape the hell of this life
with peace in my heart
purpose in life and death
And escape the furnace of His Wrath (22)
The God of all
Before Whom each knee shall bow
and tongue confess (23)
You are God!
Protected from eternal evil
Separated from the God of love -
Eternity
where evil reigns in Hades (24)
And now, I live in union with Him (25)
Through the grace of God, Creator in love
Truth revealed
by the Living God
My life for Him
Scripture References:
1. Matthew 22:29 'How wrong you are because you don't know the Scriptures or the power of God
'
2. II CORINTHIANS 3: l4 Their minds, indeed, were closed; and to this very day their minds are covered with the same veil as they read the books of the old covenant. The veil is removed only when a person is joined to Christ.
II CORINTWANS 4:3 And even if our gospel is veiled, .it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god’ of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, Who is the image of God.
3. ROMANS 1:26 Because they do this, God has given them over to shameful passions.
4. ACTS 17: 23 To an Unknown God.
5. 1 JOHN 5: 10 So all who believe in the Son of God have this testimony in their own hearts; but those who do not believe God have made Him out to be a liar, because they have not believed what God has said about His Son
6. ROMANS 1:25 They exchange the truth about God for a lie; they worship and serve what God has created instead of the Creator himself.
7. ROMANS 1:20 Ever since God created this world, His invisible qualities, both His eternal power and His divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all! 21 They know God, but they do not give Him the honour that belongs to Him, nor do they thank him. Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness
8. ROMANS 2:4 0r perhaps you despise His great kindness, tolerance, and patience. Surely you know that God is kind, because he is trying to lead you to repent. But you have a hard and stubborn heart, and so you are making your own punishment even greater on the Day when God’s anger and righteous judgments will be revealed
ROMANS11: 22 Here we see how kind and how severe God is. He is severe towards those who have fallen, but kind to you if you continue in his kindness
JOHN 3:16 For God loved the world so much that He have His only Son, so that everyone that believes in Him may not die but have eternal life
9.GENISES 2:7 The time came when the Lord God formed a man’s body from the dust of the ground and breathed into it the breath of life. And man became a living person.
JOB10:9 Oh, please remember that I’m made of dust—will you change me back again to dust so soon?
PSALMS 104 He knows what we are made of, He remembers that we are dust.
10. JOHN 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever disobeys the Son will not have life, but will remain under God’s punishment.
MATTHEW 7:14 But the gate to life is narrow and the way that lead to it is hard and there are few people who find it
11. ISAIAH 30:21 If you wander off the road to the right or the left, you will hear His Voice behind you saying, “Here is the road. follow it.”
EPHESIANS 5:17 Don’t be fools, then, but try to find out what the Lord wants you to do.
12. JOHN 1:1-5 In the beginning the Word already the existed, the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 From the very beginning the Word was with God. Through Him God made all things, not one thing in all creation was made without him. 4 The Word was the source of life, and this life brought light to humanity. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has never put it out.
13. HEBREWS 4:12 The Word of God is alive and active, sharper than any double-edged sword. It cuts all the way through, to where soul ad spirit meet,…….
JOB 42:5 but now I have seen You with my own eyes
14. JAMES 4:8 ‘Come near to God, and He will come near to you.
JEREMIAH 29:13 “You will seek Me, and you will find Me because you will seek Me with all your heart.
JOHN 5:40 Yet you are not willing to come to me in order to have life
JOHN 3:16 For God loved the world so much that He have His only Son, so that everyone that believes in Him may not die but have eternal life
HEBREWS 11:6
15. EPHESIANS 2 14 The Spirit is the guarantee that we shall receive what God has promised His people. And this assures us (in my heart) that God will give complete freedom to those who are His
John 14:6 I am the way, the truth, and the life!” Jesus answered
16 1 CORINTHIANS 1:18 For the message about Christ’s death on the cross is nonsense to those who are being lost, but for us who are being saved it is God’s power. 19 The scripture says, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise and set aside the understanding of the scholars. So then, where does that leave the wise? Or the scholars? Or the skilful debaters of this world? God has shown that this world’s wisdom is foolishness!
17. GENESIS 2:16 He said to him, “You may eat the fruit of any tree in the garden, except the tree that gives knowledge of what is good and what is bad. … if you do you will die… GENESIS 3:4 The snake replied, “That’s not true; you will not die. 5 God said that, because He knows that when you eat it you will be like God and know what is good and what is bad. 6. So she took some of the fruit and ate it.
18. ROMANS 2: 14-15 The Gentiles do not have the Law, but whenever they do by instinct what the Law commands, they are their own law, even though they do not have the Law. “Their conduct shows that what the Law commands is written in their hearts. Their consciences also show that this is true since their thoughts sometimes accuse. them and sometimes defend them
19 2 CORINTHIANS 4:18 For we fix our attention, not on things that are seen, but on things that are unseen. What can be seen lasts only for a time, but what cannot be seen lasts for ever.
20 JOHN 14 27 [Jesus said] ”Peace is what I leave with you, it is My own peace that I give you. I do not give it as the world does.
ROMANS 8:6 To be controlled by human nature results in death, to be controlled by the Spirit results in life and peace.
21 ROMANS 6:23 For sin pays its wage - death; but God’s free gift is eternal life in union with Christ Jesus our Lord.
22 MATTHEW 3:7 – who told you that you could escape from the punishment God is about to send? 8 Do those things that will show that you have turned from your sins. 9 And don’t think you can escape punishment …
EPHESIANS 5:6 Do not let anyone deceive you with foolish words, it is because of these very things that God’s anger will come upon those who do not obey Him.
23 ROMANS14 11 “As surely as I am, the living God, says the Lord, everyone will kneel before me, and everyone will confess that I am God.”
24 AMOS 5:6 Go to the LORD, and you will live. If you do not go, He will sweep down like fire …
ACTS 18:6 If you are lost, you yourselves must take the blame for it.
25 COLOSSIANS 2:6 Since you have accepted Christ Jesus as LORD live in union with Him
The Full Message:
· Never apologize for the LORD
The words of the LORD hurt and offend until there is nothing left to hurt or offend.
Jesus Christ has no tenderness whatever toward anything that is ultimately going to ruin a man in the service of God
If the Spirit of God brings to your mind a word of the LORD that hurts you, you may be sure that there is something He wants to hurt to death.
Oswald Chambers. September 26 p191
· Hebrews 10: 26-31 “29. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall in the Hands of the living God“
Do you believe God, what He is saying in His Word, every sentence? Not merely that He exists. James 2:14-26 To believe that there is a God is demonic (v19), useless (v20) and dead (26). Abraham believed God and was both righteous and called a friend of God (23)
The Truth will always hurt if you are far from it. Let the Truth hurt and offend until it is known in your heart and you will find rest as you see Jesus with your own eyes.
The God Story
A God made a universe
and an earth
beautiful people
looked at it
and said
‘It is very good!’ (1)
Out of His heart
he gave them
beautiful trees
colourful, delicious fruit
flowers
mountains
sunsets
the sea
and food
All they need to a happy healthy life
And He walked with them
Partners in bond
He gave them
to love
children to care for
to fill their lives with joy
Beautiful bodies
ears and eyes and senses
to enjoy
all He gave
from His heart
A gift from above
Even a free will
to choose
He gave them
And they turned against Him
‘I’ll walk my way
It’s my free will
It is my life!’
And His heart was filled with pain (2)
And man would lust,
harm the beautiful gift of God
with drink, smoke and tattoos
satisfy the cravings of the body
care for myself
for others - if I have to
My way
War, divorce
No regard for God (3)
And will ask
‘Where is this God?’
‘Look at the mess!’
‘A God of love?’
‘Can’t be!’
The LORD was grieved that He ever made man on earth
And His heart was filled with pain (4)
So the LORD said:
I will wipe mankind,
whom I created
from the face of the earth (5)
But ...
”How can I give you up?
How can I abandon you?
Could I ever destroy you?
My heart will not let me do it.
My love for you is too strong”. (6)
A God responded to His heart
He loved the world
so much
His one and only Son
He gave
- Himself on the altar
. no need to be wiped away
by believing Him
a whole and lasting life. (7)
God send His Son
not to accuse,
But to put man right again.
And anyone who trusts in Him
Acquitted!
anyone who refuses to trust Him
-without knowing it.-
would stay on deaths row (8)
and brake the heart of God
Scripture References:
(1) Genesis 1:31
(2) Genesis 6:6
(3) Genesis 4:7
(4) Genesis 6:6
(5) Genesis 6:7
(6) Hosea 11:8
(7) John 3:16
(8) John 3:17-8
The Hades
Total absence of love
compassion and kindness
No God
Total absence of beauty
grace, decency and tact
No God
Total absence of hope
honesty, trust and friendship
No God
Total absence of a caring heart
a mother’s love, a father’s concern
No God
Total absence of the presence of God
of peace, holiness and content
His thoughts towards me only holy
filled with love
But eternity without Him
And what is of Him
His character
And what He created
None of Him
Where Evil reigns in Hades
the father of lies
telling me this can’t be
with relentless attacks of utter hate
No virtue or compassion
None of God
Obscene monstrous acts of violence
worse than anything real or imagined
No mercy, no fair play
Look at the world
None of God
The heart of a cruel killer
Deceiver, Power of Darkness
His thoughts towards me only evil
filled with hate
None of God
Hate thy neighbor
Love thyself
Have no regard for God
Eternal pain
in the presence of your father -
The Evil One
Whose only heart
is your pain
Satisfied, he’s hurting the heart of God
Your eternal destiny secure
Separated from God
And what is of Him
You’ve lost His presence
Eternal separation
A place called Hell
Naked
Stiff necked
Stiff kneed
A hardened heart of stone
Touched -
the presence of God
stripped it all
Trembling
Naked
Nothing hidden
He knows the heart-
every thought of man
Knees bent
a head bowed down
the weight of conviction
deep in my heart
a fire melts solid stone
All of my being exposed
Garden of Eden
naked before the Eternal God
Fear gripped my heart
the barrenness of my soul
He covered me
a white robe of holiness
His Cross revealed
from my head into my heart
Abba Father!
Christmas
Pretty little Christmas lights
everywhere
windows and Christmas trees
candles and hearts
millions in colours
glittering,
delighting the heart of the world
it’s Christmas!
Each little light
a Gentle message from God
A witness to us
Even long before the Light had dawned
It was announced
‘people walking in darkness have seen a Great Light’ (1)
And He said
‘I have come into the world as a light,
so that no one who believes in Me
should stay in darkness’ (2)
‘Shout for joy to the LORD all the earth
Burst into jubilant song’ (3)
It’s Christmas!
As each and every pretty little light
Carries His Message of love to our hearts
A time of peace to all
A time to give!
Even as the world
flock to trade
The spirit is to give
Because He gave
And every precious little gift
Every token of love
A message to the world
‘God so loved the world
He gave His one and only Son,
That, whoever believes in Him
shall not perish but have eternal life’ (4)
And peace
The ever evading dream of the world
Every yearn of the heart
A world cries out
And
‘Unto us a Child is born,
a Son is given,
He will be called Wonderful Councilor,
Mighty God,
Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace’ (5)
And He said:
‘Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to earth.
I did not come to bring peace but a sword’ (6)
‘For the word of God is living and active.
Sharper than a double edged sword,
it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit’ (7)
‘Peace I leave with you; My peace I give you.
I do not give to you as the world gives’ (8)
And every well wish for Christmas -
‘Merry Christmas!
Compliments of the season!
and
Season’s Greetings!’
Reminds the heart
The only peace
Is different
It is found in Him
Lights, gifts and well wishes Celebrating THE GIFT!
and a world can never say ‘I did not know’
Because it’s all in Christmas!
1. Isaiah announced the coming of the Christ hundreds of years before the birth of Christ. Isaiah 9:2 ‘The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned’. Also in 5 below
2. John 12:46 ‘I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in Me should stay in darkness’
3. Psalm 98:4 ‘Shout for joy to the LORD all the earth. Burst into jubilant song’
4. John 3:16 ‘For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believe in Him shall not perish but have eternal life
5. Isaiah 9:6 ‘For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders . And He will be called Wonderful Councilor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace
6. Matthew 10:34 ‘Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword
7. Hebrews 4:12 ‘For the word f God is living and active. Sharper than a double edges sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit’
8. John 14:27 Peace I leave with you; My peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives’
Christmas Tragedy
Bethlehem
The night sky
deep
blue
rich and clear
A glistening Star
Bright and White
Shepherds with sheep
gaze and wonder
An angel choir
can this be
Wise men from afar
can this be True
or a mere tale to tell
The birth of a story
and children would see Christmas trees
hear carols sung
And a Bethlehem night would disappear
under presents
and the hype of money spun
Hearts too afraid to ask
or think
but what about Bethlehem
Was that true
or a mere tale to tell
to an innocent child
and blur his brain
with a farfetched fairy tale
But a tale that millions and millions have heard
over twenty hundred years
wrenched and distorted
and desperate to bury the idea
of possible Truth
under Christmas wraps and goodtime caps
Don’t bring that God
to close to my heart
when happy christmas
merrily fills my soul
and my enlightened mind-
just don’t upset my party
I hate a tsunami
don’t spoil my day
with hangover pay
Thirty pieces of silver
and I trade the Most High
deep in my heart
For the free will of man
Silver lights and Christmas trees
Money flows and merchants smile
the Father’s house a shopping mall
ties and unwanted presents
broken toys
and soon forgotten gestures
gifts in a corner
and a heart might wonder
what is this
They hung Him on a tree
spat in His face
ignored Him
the Son of Man
the God of Heaven
His Name in vain
without a thought
on the lips of men
The busses declared
‘there is probably no God!’
and Boulton said
‘there'll probably be no religion
in another hundred years!’
They crucify Him again and again
try to kill the Son of Man
and spit in His face
finish off what the Romans couldn't do
Abundant love and patient anger
wrath constrained
Infinite grace covers us all
God hung on a cross
driven by love
and knew that the world would pierce His heart
for 2000 years and years to come
And a sad sad
status quo
that ruled the world
now for 2000 years and more to come
but the heart of man keeps running
a lone wonderer
desperate for peace
evading shadows
in the gloom of a forest night
desperately reaching out
stretched out arms and hands
and fingers
as peace floats and disappears from grasping souls
like shadows in the night
Peace and content
the desperate yearn
the inexplicable
mysterious
ever evading
need of the human heart
But the reality of the birth of Christ
and the death on the cross
will last
in the souls of those who seek
despite the choice
of a tale with no grounds
The Truth
that resurrects a spirit to life
with peace and content
liberty and reason
and love that fills a heart
with God made one
Who willed the seeking
of the human soul
and the finding
of The One
Poems to Ponder
'God looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God'
Psalm 53:2