EVER WONDERED ABOUT GOD
WHO HE IS AND WHY
YOU ARE
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Tertius Venter
If there's only matter nothing matters, no reason to trust reason, no objective moral values.
No free will - (materialists & atheist Sam Harris and pantheist Albert Einstein)
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The search for meaning/purpose in life is ultimately a useless exercise in a blind pitiless indifferent material world - if there is nothing outside the human brain. Molecules alone = no meaning
Another Argument for the Existence of God
The Third (tertius) Volitional Argument for the Existence of God
How can the fact that we have a will—that is, our volition which is more like the act to exercise our will—point to the existence of God? And what does volition reveal about the basis and existence for both material and immaterial realities? That’s what we’ll explore in this talk, and the final conclusion might surprise you.
Let's explore The Volitional Argument for the Existence of God How does the concept of volition (or will) support the existence of God? We will explore the Role of Volition in both the Existence of Material and Immaterial Realities Volition is central to the argument. What then is the definition? Volition (or will) involves intention and commitment to action.
Here is the thesis statement and foundation for the Third Volitional Argument: Volition is essential for bringing both material and immaterial entities into existence.
Every immaterial concept originates from nothing and becomes a reality through a thought process shaped in a mind. This thought must be followed by the will (volition) to actualize it. Stories, music, art, and business plans, creative thoughts are all creations of the mind. That is, immaterial creations from nothing – ex nihilo. These concepts exist, and therefore, minds exist. And without minds these would not exist.
Can we then infer that also for material objects to come into existence from nothing, a thought or concept is required, followed by the will, or volition, to actualize it, that is, to create matter from nothing? Thoughts and volition exist only within minds. I think it is plausible that for something to come from nothing you need a mind. Humans cannot create material objects from nothing; nothing in the material world can. The Kalam Cosmological Argument points to God as the only plausible cause for the beginning of the universe, when the material world was created from nothing.
Matter exists; therefore, God exists.
But let us not jump to conclusions as yet.
The Third Volitional Argument suggests that volition is essential for bringing both material and immaterial entities into existence. This process begins with an inspired moment of a creative concept, which is then shaped by thoughts within the mind. For this concept or thought to be realized, it must be followed by the will (volition) to bring it into actuality.
Let us pull this apart Volition, or will, is the cognitive, or thinking process by which an individual decides on and commits to a particular course of action. It would include affect (that feeling or emotion) and motivation (that is goals or expectations). Applying the concept of volition to the arguments for the existence of God there are at least two existing versions that we need to consider and have a quick look at before we can present the current or third argument, these two are: 1. The (First) Volitional Argument for God and 2. The Neo-Volitional Argument for God. These are both philosophical arguments that have been developed to argue the existence of God based on volition or will.
Now for a somewhat different angle to this argument. What I propose as a volitional argument for the existence of God is based two realities. The reality of material entities and immaterial entities. Material entities like chairs, trees, the universe. And immaterial entities like stories and music.
Developing the Third Volitional Argument for the Existence of God we will look at:
A. Material Entities. We consider two principles, two observable facts:
Summary: For material entities to come into existence it 1. needs a cause and 2. cannot come into existence ex-nihilo – out of nothing. Except for the moment of the initial singularity that needs an explanation i.e., creation
B. Immaterial Entities.
What about immaterial entities, like art, music, stories, or business plans?
The story or melody did not exist prior to the creative moment, yet the building blocks and mental faculties required to conceive and process them did exist as the cause. This process begins with an inspired moment of a creative concept, which is then shaped by thoughts within the mind. For this concept or thought to be realized, it must be followed by the will (volition) to bring it into actuality. Human minds are entities that can create immaterial forms.
Summary: For immaterial entities to come into existence it 1. needs a cause and 2. But it can come into existence ex-nihilo – out of nothing i.e., been created
Humans cannot create material objects; therefore, for material objects, is a non-human mind necessary to form the idea, and will it? If it is postulated that a mind is necessary to create material objects, but a human mind cannot, what kind of mind then? Given the arguments presented, God is the only plausible explanation for a mind capable of creating material objects. Furthermore, this argument posits that both humans and God possess minds that can create, as evidenced by the ability of minds to create immaterial entities. Humans, created in the image of God, share some attributes with God, such as intelligence, creativity, volition, and the ability to create immaterial entities. However, God, being transcendent and existing outside the material world—just as humans exist outside the immaterial worlds they create—one could infer that God possesses the ability to create material entities ex nihilo. God as the cause of the universe is argued in the Kalam Cosmological.
Therefore, the argument will conclude that since both humans and God possess minds with the necessary attributes to bring something into existence from nothing, in other words, to create, and since the material world exists, and human minds cannot create material from nothing, it follows that God exists as the necessary cause for the existence of the material world.
In summary, the Third Volitional Argument for God asserts that the existence of God can be inferred from the human capacity of volition, coupled with the necessity of a volitional agent to bring about the existence of both immaterial and material entities from nothing.
Human Creative Thoughts
Before we look at the formal structure of the argument, we have to consider the concept of ‘human creative thoughts’ as it is central to the argument. Original creative thoughts often seem to emerge spontaneously, appearing as sudden flashes of inspiration or insight that feel distinct from ordinary thinking. These initial sparks arise seemingly from "nowhere," arriving as whole, surprising concepts rather than pieced-together ideas. Neuroscience links this phenomenon to the brain’s default mode network (DMN), which activates when we’re relaxed or not focused on a specific task. The DMN fosters free association across brain regions, allowing unusual connections to form—especially when the mind is at rest, like during a walk or just before sleep. This spontaneous creativity differs from the analytical thinking that follows. The brain’s executive control network, responsible for deliberate thought, becomes engaged once the initial spark occurs, helping us to explore, refine, and understand the new idea. The transition from the DMN’s unrestrained association to focused processing allows us to build upon the original spark and develop it fully. While the initial creative spark is marked by spontaneity and feels unique, it is often just the beginning. It serves as a guiding light that the conscious mind then shapes into a more coherent, developed form, blending inspiration with structured thought.
The sudden appearance of a fully formed symphony, story, or complex concept is a rare but intriguing phenomenon often described by highly creative individuals. Unlike smaller flashes of inspiration, these "complete" creative sparks seem to arrive all at once, as if a whole, intricate idea manifests instantly. This phenomenon, sometimes called a “flash of inspiration,” suggests something beyond what the default mode network (DMN) alone can explain. It feels more profound than a fleeting thought and appears to bypass typical conscious planning. Although neuroscientific explanations remain speculative, these creative moments differ fundamentally from the analytical processes that follow. Ultimately, while we lack a full understanding of where these initial sparks arise, it’s evident that they represent a unique and powerful aspect of creativity, distinct from the thought processes used to develop them. I believe all human creative activity is inspired by the Creator.
The formal structure of the argument:
The Third (tertius) Volitional Argument for the Existence of God
A. Argument on the Existence of Immaterial Concepts and Minds:
1. Every immaterial concept originates from nothing, ex-nihilo, and becomes a reality by a thought process in a mind with the steps: creative concept/thought process/reality
2. But for an immaterial concept to be actualized, to become a reality, it must be followed by a will (volition). Thus, the steps are actually creative concept/thought process/volition/reality
Stories, music, art, and business plans are all examples of immaterial concepts created by the mind. Without minds these concepts would not exist.
3. The mind must be outside the created immaterial concept - someone in the story cannot create the story as the story is immaterial and the person in the story is not real
4. Thus, these immaterial concepts exist because minds exist.
Conclusion 1: The creative idea or creative concept (creative spark) becomes a thought process and by will/volition becomes an actuality. Therefore, Immaterial concepts exist because creative volitional minds exist.
The second part of the argument is
B. The Argument on the Existence of Material Objects and God:
5. For material objects to come into existence from nothing, ex-nihilo, a creative concept and thought is needed – this is a logical inference from A. The steps are: creative concept/thought process/reality
6. This thought or concept must be followed by a will (volition) to actualize it into material form. Or in full, the steps are: creative concept/thought process/volition/reality
7. Creative concepts, thoughts and volition exist only within minds.
8. Humans cannot create material objects from nothing.
9. Nothing within the material world can create itself from nothing. (the same as that someone in the story cannot create the story as the story is immaterial and the person in the story is not real)
Conclusion 2: Therefore, an external mind (a mind outside the material world similar to the human mind outside the immaterial world) with the capacity for creative concepts, thoughts and volition, must exist to account for the material world. The Kalam Cosmological Argument argues that the universe needed an external cause and support this conclusion.
Final Conclusion: Human minds can create immaterial entities ex nihilo. The material world’s existence, coupled with the inability of human minds to create material ex nihilo, suggests therefore an external divine mind, as the volitional creator Matter (the universe) exists; therefore, God exists as a plausible necessary external mind that brought the material world into existence by His will, His volition.
Implications for Belief:
The Third Volitional Argument presents a reasoned basis for the existence of God
There is no other plausible explanation why there is something rather than nothing
This Third Volitional Argument adds to the body of arguments supporting the evidence for God's existence.
One less reason not to believe.
One more reason to examine your heart